Episodes

Today, We Review ”Drinkers Like me” by Adrian Chiles & Discuss New Developments in RMA

RMA-Episode 86 Show Notes:   A triumphant return! Season 2 of RMA kicks off with a review of the BBC documentary film Drinkers Like Me. Mike and Nat talk about the...

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* RMA HIATUS-VIDEO CALL UPDATE * Nat X & Mike R Spill The Beans!

RMA-Episode 85 Show Notes:   And, We’re Almost Back! This morning we started a zoom call to catch up, Mike hit the record button, and we both realized how much we...

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”Your Best Thinking Got You Here!” And Other Questionable Things Said To Us In Early Recovery

RMA-Episode 84 Show Notes:   Your best thinking got you here. It’s a common enough slogan in AA and other 12 Step programs, but what does it mean? Einstein said that...

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April’s Top Recovery Stories on a VERY Special ’Take 3 SLP’ LIVE edition!

RMA-Episode 83 Show Notes:   This week on RMA-it’s a Take 3 Takeover! RMA and Sober Lining Playbooks’s own Grant Boyken joins Mike and Nat to discuss involuntary civil commitment, alcohol...

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The Great Debate: Recover or Recovered? Is It Possible? Does It Matter? Find Out!

RMA-Episode 82 Show Notes:   And we’re back! Sort of. Mike is still wrestling with COVID but the show must go on and so it does, in all of its audio-challenged...

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RITN EXTRA!!! The Next Big Addiction Treatment & What Are Trauma Informed Workplaces?

RMA-Episode 81 Show Notes:   This week on a very special episode of RMA, Mike and Nat do an extended news wrap-up which includes a discussion of the latest research on...

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Setting Healthy Boundaries in Recovery – ¡GetSmart! with Erin & The Big 3 with SLP

RMA-Episode 80 Show Notes:   This week on a very special episode of RMA, Mike and Nat welcome Erin back to the podcast to talk about boundaries and codependency.  Boundaries are...

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How YOU doin?! Compare and despair: how keeping up with the jones’ can cause depression, anxiety and relapse!

RMA-Episode 79 Show Notes:   Compare and despair! It has been said that comparison is the thief of joy, but we still do it all the time. Why? Maybe it’s grounded...

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Can America Recover? Author and Recovery Luminary Evan Haines Joins Us!

RMA-Episode 78 Show Notes:   Can America Recover? Evan Haines sure thinks so, and he is our guest this week on RMA. In addition to being the co-founder and co-CEO of...

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PTSD & Trauma in Recovery – Mike’s Story of Acid & Delinquency with the Grateful Dead

RMA-Episode 77 Show Notes:   This week Mike and Nat continue their mini-series on mental health in recovery by tackling the multi-headed beast that is PTSD. What is it? How does...

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”The Weight of Air” by David Poses – The Big 3 with SLP – Treating Depression in Recovery

RMA-Episode 76 Show Notes:   AND, we’re back! After a week of darkness, RMA returns with an episode for the ages. Mike and Nat dive into a review of David Poses...

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Nat’s Super Bowl Relapse & What is self care, and why is it important?

RMA-Episode 75 Show Notes:   What is self care, and why is it important? Building off this week’s Monksters Speak, Mike and Nat do a deep dive into the concept of...

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MISHKA SHUBALY – The Definitive Interview!

RMA-Episode 74 Show Notes:   Mishka Shubaly wears many hats;  writer, musician, ultrarunner, podcaster. His Kindle Singles for Amazon have all been bestsellers. He writes true stories about drink, drugs, disasters,...

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Are Fewer Women Seeking Addiction Treatment – Decriminalized Fentanyl Test Strips – AND MORE

RMA-Episode 73 Show Notes:   This week on RMA it’s the Recovery in the News Roundup, coming to you from the new studio at Castle Greyskull! Mike and Nat combed through...

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Are You You Talkin’ To Me? ¡GetSmart! Tackles Negative Self-Talk – Grant Boyken’s Big 3 W/SLP

RMA-Episode 72 Show Notes:   Are You Talkin’ to Me? Negative self-talk and a poor self-image are recurring issues for people in recovery. Thoughts are powerful, and they can shape a...

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”The Anonymous People” Documentary Discussion, The Disease Model of Addiction & MORE

RMA-Episode 71 Show Notes:   Is anonymity in recovery a good thing, or does it stand in the way of the effort to de-stigmatize addiction? The movie Anonymous People purports to...

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Health & Fitness in Recovery, Sledding, Mike’s Car Almost Gets Stolen, Nat’s Panic Attacks and MORE!

RMA-Episode 70 Show Notes:   We spend a lot of time here at RMA talking about the mental health aspects of addiction and recovery. This week we are going to shift...

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Discussing ”Life of Crime, 1984-2020” & Surviving a Snowstorm Sober

RMA-Episode 69 Show Notes:   Imagine being a documentary filmmaker and following your subjects around for 36 years. That’s what Jon Alpert did when he documented the lives of three petty...

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RMA New Year’s Special! Grant Boyken Recaps All Things Recovery in 2021

RMA-Episode 68 Show Notes:   Happy New Year! It’s the RMA New Year’s special! This week Mike and Nat are joined by Grant Boyken, editor-at-large of the RMA newsroom, moderator of...

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RMA Holiday Spectacular! Monksters Call In & We Discuss The Pain of Holiday ”Joy”

RMA-Episode 67 Show Notes:   Merry NatXmas! It’s the RMA holiday special! This week we play listener voice-mails, share some holiday cheer and get in tune with the spirit of the...

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Paul Churchill, Author and Host of Recovery Elevator Joins Us To Discuss Life, Love and Recovery

RMA-Episode 66 Show Notes:   Saddle up! Today RMA sits down with Paul Churchill, host of Recovery Elevator and author of the book, Alcohol is Sh*t, How to Ditch the Booze,...

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Extra! Extra! Recovery in the News ¡GetSmart! With Erin Moore Crossover Episode

RMA-Episode 65 Show Notes:   This week on RMA,  Erin Moore returns to the podcast to discuss addiction, connection, alienation and Maia Szalavitz’s recent Op-Ed in the NY Times, Opioids Feel...

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Post Thanksgiving Report and We Discuss Rational Recovery & ”The Small Book” by Jack Trimpy

RMA-Episode 64 Show Notes:   We're back! And boy do we have a show for you. This week Mike and Nat discuss the ins and outs of Jack Trimpey’s Rational Recovery....

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RMA Guide to Surviving the Holidays & Seasonal Affective Disorder – Discussing ”Living Sober”

RMA-Episode 63 Show Notes:   Ready or not, the holidays are around the corner! The stretch from Thanksgiving to New Year’s Eve is fraught with peril for the newly sober and...

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RMA Gets Loose As We Discuss The New Podcast ”Hooked” About A Successful Boeing Engineer Who Started Robbing Banks With His Son After Becoming Addicted To OXY

RMA-Episode 61 Show Notes:   This week is all about taking it easy on RMA. No guests, no books to review, no movies to watch. Instead, Mike and Nat talk about...

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Discussing ”Unbroken Brain” by Maia Szalavitz – Is Addiction a Learning Disorder? Find Out Now!

RMA-Episode 61 Show Notes:   This week on RMA: Addiction. Is it a disease of the brain, or is it something better thought of as a maladaptive learned behavior? Unbroken Brain...

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Recovery Guru & Author Joseph W. Naus Joins Us In Studio Discussing His Life, Work, & Recovery

RMA-Episode 60-Show Notes:   This week on RMA we welcome our first in-studio guest, Joseph Naus, the author of the wildly successful addiction and recovery memoirs, Straight Pepper Diet and The...

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¡GetSmart! with Erin Moore! Recovery Horror Documentary ”The Last Stop” & Synanon‘s Lasting Influence

RMA-Episode 59 Show Notes:   This week on RMA-The Last Stop: When a good kid goes down the wrong path, parents are left feeling hopeless. What do they do when their...

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Dopamine Nation by Dr. Anna Lembke & NatX Returns to Traffic Court

RMA-Episode 58 Show Notes:   This week on RMA, we review Dopamine Nation, the new book written by Dr. Anna Lembke, Medical Director of Addiction Medicine at Stanford University and director...

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RMA Nights! The Kratom Withdrawal Nightmare With Jeff & Bianca D.

RMA-Episode 57 Show Notes:   Did you ever think you were making progress in your recovery only to be derailed by something that you thought was helping you? That’s what happened...

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12 Smart Things To Do When The Booze and Drugs are Gone: Part 2 & The Monksters Speak!

RMA-Episode 56 Show Notes:   This week on RMA-We continue our discussion of emotional sobriety as an essential element of recovery by taking a look at a few of Dr. Berger’s...

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Emotional Sobriety: Discussing the book ”12 Smart Things…” by Dr. Alan Berger, PhD

RMA-Episode 55 Show Notes:   This week on RMA-Emotional Sobriety as an essential element of recovery. What is it? How can we achieve it? Why is it important? You’ve heard us...

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The Gallows Humor of Recovery – Grant B. Stops in to Discuss His Sober Journey

RMA-Episode 46 Show Notes:   What is a “high-functioning” alcoholic?  I think there are a fair number of people out there who are able to keep drinking and using while at...

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Sponsorship Part 3: Tandem Sponsors & Mentors – 9/11 20th Anniversary PTSD

RMA-Episode 53 Show Notes:   This week on RMA: Tandem bicycles, tandem kayaks...tandem sponsors? Last week we looked at the darker side of sponsorship and how to avoid some of the...

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¡Get Smart! with Erin Moore! Discussing Sponsorship & The 13th Step

RMA-Episode 52 Show Notes:   This week on RMA: When sponsors go bad. Anyone who has been around 12 step groups for any length of time is familiar with the idea...

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Pros & Cons of Traditional Sponsorship – The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

RMA-Episode 51 Show Notes:   And now, a word from our sponsors. Just kidding,  RMA doesn’t have any sponsors. Yet.  BUT, Mike and Nat have a few things to say about...

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1st Anniversary Show! Mexican Assisted Treatment? MAT vs 12 Step Dogma Explained

RMA-Episode 50 Show Notes:   50 Episodes! For one solid year we’ve been on this journey together, sharing our experience strength and hope with all of you out there in podcast...

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Legalized Crack, Heroin, and LSD? Portland’s Foray Into Narcotic Chaos

RMA-Episode 49 Show Notes:   Legalize it. That's what the state of Oregon did last November when the voters overwhelmingly passed Ballot initiative 110 which decriminalized possession of small amounts of...

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The Hero’s Journey Through Addiction Recovery & The First Annual RMA Family Retreat!

RMA-Episode 48 Show Notes:   The hero’s journey. In narratology and comparative mythology, the hero's journey, or the monomyth, is the common template of stories that involve a hero who goes...

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Recovery In The News Special Edition! Does Drinking Moderation Work?

RMA-Episode 47 Show Notes:   This week on RMA-the news you can use. On a special, all-Recovery in the News episode of RMA, Mike and Nat do a deep dive on...

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Relapse Spectacular Part 2! Triggers, Relapse & The Abstinence Violation Effect

RMA-Episode 46 Show Notes:   This week on RMA we square the circle on relapse and take a look at some of the statistics and studies dealing with the issue. We...

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Oops I Did It Again! ¡GetSmart! with Erin Moore Relapse Spectacular!

RMA-Episode 44 Show Notes:   Relapse is a part of recovery. Or is it? This one little statement has engendered a fair amount of controversy and consternation in the recovery community....

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Make Me One With Everything – The Stages of Recovery and Reordering Your Mind

RMA-Episode 44 Show Notes:   Recovery is a process, and learning how to think with a recovery mindset is a journey, an evolution of mind. Like any other journey, there are...

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Felonious Monk – Joseph W. Naus in the Big House & End of School Year Armageddon

RMA-Episode 43 Show Notes:   This week we continue our discussion of Pepperdine Law grad and former attorney Joseph W. Naus’s memoir, Straight Pepper Diet, a harrowing and sometimes hilarious memoir...

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“Straight Pepper Diet” by Joseph W. Naus & General Spring Chaos

RMA-Episode 41 Show Notes:   "On Tuesday, I was a respected civil trial lawyer making six-figures. On Wednesday, I woke up handcuffed to a hospital bed charged with attempted murder...and then...

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¡Get Smart! with Erin Moore! Parenting with a Recovery Mindset – Talking to Your Kids About Your Past

RMA-Episode 41 Show Notes:   This week on Recovery in the Middle Ages, Erin Moore returns to talk about parenting, family dynamics and addiction. When people use drugs and alcohol they...

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Crime of the Century Pt. 2 – The Psychopathy of People Pleasing

RMA-Episode 40 Show Notes:   If you thought Perdu Pharma was the real villain behind the opioid epidemic, let me introduce you to Insys Therapeutics. A pharmaceutical company run by the...

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Crime of the Century – Big Pharma & the Opioid Crisis

RMA-Episode 39 Show Notes:   When you think of the term “crisis,” what comes to mind? Usually, a crisis is thought of as something that just happens; a series of events...

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My Karma Got Run Over By My Dogma – Jed Shred Talks Recovery Dharma!

RMA-Episode 38 Show Notes:   Q: What did the Zen master say to the hot dog vendor?  A: Make me one with everything!   This week, Jed Shred drops by the storeroom to help...

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I Can’t Believe It’s Not Buddha! What Is Recovery Dharma?

RMA-Episode 37 Show Notes: Life is suffering. To anyone who has watched the sunrise in the parking lot of a cheap hotel after a few days of binging on drugs,...

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The Sinclair Method – “One Little Pill” Film Discussion & Much More!

RMA-Episode 36 Show Notes: The Sinclair Method (TSM). Naltrexone. What do you think of when you hear those terms? Is TSM the miracle cure for alcoholism that it’s most ardent...

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¡Get Smart! with Erin Moore – Sobriety of Pandemic Proportions

RMA-Episode 34 Show Notes: This week on RMA, Get Smart With Erin Moore returns to discuss sobriety during the pandemic, and how traditional recovery programs tried to adapt to the...

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Part 2 – Alcohol is #$%@ by Paul Churchill & Staying Clean in Suburbia

RMA-Episode 34 Show Notes: Another week has gone by and Alcohol is still S**t. Mike and Nat continue their deep dive into Alcohol is S**t, the seminal work penned by...

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The Guys Discuss “Alcohol is Shi!t” by Paul Churchill – Part 1

RMA-Episode 33 Show Notes:   Alcohol is S**t. You know it, I know it, and Paul Churchill knows it so well he wrote a book about it. This week Mike and...

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Dave from Dopey Podcast & Mike Returns from Mexico & General Spring Chaos

RMA-Episode 32 Show Notes: This week on an extra-large episode of Recovery in the Middle Ages, we welcome a very special guest. Dave from the Dopey podcast joins Mike and...

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¡Get Smart! with Erin Moore: What Are You Worth? The Real Cost Of Addiction Treatment

RMA-Episode 31 Show Notes:   This week on a special episode of Get Smart with Erin Moore, we continue our discussion of the dark underbelly of the recovery industry. Erin has...

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Invasion of the Body Snatchers- The Guys Review “Body Brokers”

RMA-Episode 30 Show Notes: Somebody wants your body and they’re willing to pay for it!  This week on RMA, Mike and Nat dive deep into the seedy side of the...

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Up In Smoke- Marijuana and Recovery – Debating CBD, Delta 8 & Kratom

RMA-Episode 29 Show Notes: Smoke ‘em if you’ve got ‘em? Should cannabis be a part of your recovery program? Is medical marijuana all it’s cracked-up to be? What about CBD,...

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Too Many A$$holes in Recovery? Nat Dishes About His New Exercise Regimen

RMA-Episode 28 Show Notes:   This week the topic you’ve all been waiting for: “A**holes in Recovery! Why are there so many?” Do you know one? Are you one? Also, Nat...

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…And We’re BACK! The Guys Discuss “Drug Use For Grownups” by Dr. Carl Hart

RMA-Episode 27 Show Notes: And we’re BACK. Mike and Nat dive into a discussion of Dr. Carl Hart’s new book Drug Use for Grown-Ups, and share their thoughts on Dr....

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¡Get Smart! with Erin Moore! The Pinking of Alcoholism & Nat’s Super bowl Incident

RMA-Episode 25 Show Notes:   This week we welcome Erin Moore back to the program to talk about alcohol marketing and treatment from a woman's perspective. What’s up with the “pinkening”...

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Sober Dad During a Snow Storm – Is Stock Trading Gambling?

RMA-Episode 25 Show Notes: Is stock investing gambling? Is it addictive behavior? What about lotto? It’s all about the dopamine. Also, remember that person that used to go out in...

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This Naked Mind Part 3 – Practical Steps to Freedom from Alcohol

RMA-Episode 24 Show Notes: This Naked Mind Part III. On our final episode on TNM we talk about Annie’s 4 Point program to set you free.  Plus, the usual hijinx: the...

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Does Vivitrol Helps Meth Cravings? “This Naked Mind” Book Discussion Part 2

RMA-Episode 23 Show Notes: This Naked Mind Part II. Everything you thought you knew about alcohol is dead wrong. Mike and Nat break it down. Plus, the weekly round-up, Recovery in...

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Naked Recovery: Nat & Mike Discuss “This Naked Mind” Part 1

RMA-Episode 22 Show Notes: Hi-ya Kids! This week we have a show that’s chock full of alt-recovery wisdom. We do an in-depth dive into Annie Grace’s This Naked Mind and...

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What is Smart Recovery? Happy Birthday to Mike!

RMA-Episode 21 Show Notes:   Greetings fellow travelers on the road to recovery. We start the second week of 2021 with an in-depth dive into the world of SMART recovery and...

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New Year’s Resolutions! Gabor Mate: 4 Step Process

RMA-Episode 19 Show Notes:   Happy New Year everyone! It’s out with the old and in with the new on the first episode of RMA for 2021. This week Mike and...

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The 1st Annual RMA Holiday Special! Joined by Jed from C&OD – And More!

RMA-Episode 19 Show Notes: Happy holidays kids!! This week on our special Christmas edition of RMA we present our interview with Jed from the Church & Other Drugs podcast. Jed...

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Unified Field Theory of Addiction – Gabor Mate Hungry Ghosts Pt. 2

RMA-Episode 18 Show Notes: Greetings fellow travellers! This week on RMA we continue our deep dive into Dr. Gabor Mate’s In The Realm of Hungry Ghosts and deconstruct his theory...

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The Bipolar Addict & Gabor Maté’s “In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts”

RMA-Episode 17 Show Notes: Hey Folks! This week on RMA we look at Dr. Gabor Mate’s In The Realm of Hungry Ghosts and discuss what we think about his view...

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Staying Clean Under Murphy’s Law & The Ambien Walrus

RMA-Episode 16 Show Notes: Hey Folks! Christmas is right around the bend, can you believe it?  What better way to kick off the holiday season than by listening to the...

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Thanksgiving Hangover Special! Did You Make It Through?

Recovery in the Middle Ages-Episode 15 Show Notes: Hey Folks! It’s the day after Thanksgiving and time for Recovery in the Middle Ages’ first annual Thanksgiving Hangover Special. Mike and...

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Biggest Party Night of the Year? Send Your Turkey To Rehab!

RMA-Episode 14 Show Notes: Greetings fellow travelers. It’s time for the long slow slog through the holidays to begin, but don’t worry, Mike and Nat are here to help you...

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You Down With M.A.T.? Interview With Cathi Wilder, LCSW

RMA-Episode Lucky 13 Show Notes: Hi folks! This week Mike and Nat sit down with Cathi Wilder, LCSW, to talk about recovery from a different perspective. A psychiatric social worker,...

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DMT Shadow Goblins, Halloween Alcoholics & CBD Accidental Relapse?

Recovery in the Middle Ages -Episode 12 Show Notes: Have we got a show for you! Mike accidentally gets high on a new form of CBD(!), the guys talk about...

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Is Taking CBD a Relapse? Imposter Syndrome: Am I Good Enough For Me?

Recovery in the Middle Ages-Episode 11 Show Notes: Happy Halloween folks. Mike and Nat are back in the studio and fired up! This week the boys talk about imposter syndrome,...

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Recovery on the Road! Staying Clean on Work Trips

Recovery in the Middle Ages-Episode 10 Show Notes: Mike is on the road this week, so we had to negotiate some technical issues but hopefully you enjoy the show. We...

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Kratom, Harm-Reduction & How Not to Buy Weed: Mike in da Bronx ’86

Recovery in the Middle Ages-Episode 9 Show Notes: This week Mike and Nat talk harm reduction, kratom, shame, legalized weed and buying drugs in places you shouldn’t.   All that, plus Recovery...

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Resentments, Relapse, and Mike Loses His Pants Buying Crack

Recovery in the Middle Ages-Episode 8 Show Notes: This week the boys tackle the thorny issue of resentment; what it is, and how to deal with it. Mike and Nat...

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Free-lapsing, Drug Dreams and Seamus Checks In.

Recovery in the Middle Ages -Episode 7 Show Notes: This week on Episode 7 of RMA we welcome Mike’s old friend Seamus to the podcast. Seamus shares his experience of ...

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Discussing Trauma, Addiction, Recovery and Misphonia with Erin Moore!

RMA-Episode 6 Show Notes: This week we welcome Erin Moore to the Podcast! Erin is a recovering alcoholic and pill aficionado who lives in North Carolina and has seven-plus years...

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WTF is Kombucha? Mike’s 9/11 Story & John the “Can Man” Is Homeless

RMA-Episode 5 Show Notes: It’s a mixed bag this week. Nat goes long with a superbowl party story for the ages. Mike talks about 9/11 and its impact on his...

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FULL LENGTH-The God Particle – Religion in Recovery:

FULL LENGTH The God Particle - Religion in Recovery: What's It Good for?! RMA-Episode 4 Show Notes:   This week Mike and Nat tackle matters of the spirit. What does God mean to...

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The God Particle – Religion in Recovery: What’s It Good for?!

The God Particle - Religion in Recovery: What's It Good for?! RMA-Episode 4 Show Notes:   This week Mike and Nat tackle matters of the spirit. What does God mean to two...

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Should Mike Smoke Pot? Moral Relativism in Recovery & the Grateful Dead

PLEASE leave us a 5 star review on I-Tunes if you’re enjoying the show and SUBSCRIBE to get the latest episodes.  APPLE LINK https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/recovery-in-middle-ages-two-middle-aged-suburban-dads/id1528859864 You can reach us by emai...

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Happy Soberversary to Mike & How to Pass a Piss Test Without Really Trying

PLEASE leave us a 5 star review on I-Tunes if you’re enjoying the show and SUBSCRIBE to get the latest episodes.  APPLE LINK https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/recovery-in-middle-ages-two-middle-aged-suburban-dads/id1528859864 You can reach us by emai...

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Recovery in the Middle Ages: The first episode….Nice to meet you!

In this first episode, Mike and Nat introduce themselves to the audience. They give brief introductions as to who they are and what they intend to discuss. The topics...

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