The Guys Discuss “Alcohol is Shi!t” by Paul Churchill – Part 1

RMA-Episode 33 Show Notes:


Alcohol is S**t. You know it, I know it, and Paul Churchill knows it so well he wrote a book about it. This week Mike and Nat start their deep dive into Alcohol is S**t, the seminal work penned by the founder of the Recovery Elevator podcast and architect of the Cafe RE movement. This week the guys lay the groundwork by discussing the first half of the book, deconstructing Paul’s theory on the origin of addiction. Genetics, environment, dopamine and happy rats are all on the menu.


Recovery In The News this week takes a look at the Moderation Management program and asks, “why bother?”


All this, plus the week in weird, and the week in review, on a moderately successful, genetically predisposed, environmentally influenced episode of Recovery in the Middle Ages


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